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Two Futurity Champion Studs!

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DEFCON5 2018 CC Walking Fleece Dually Judges Choice at MAPACA Pundit!
Carol Karsten
437670 E 190 Road
Vinita, OK, 7430
603-933-1979
www.hhfalpacas.com
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    Photo of Hidden Hill Peruvian Andria
    Hidden Hill Peruvian Andria
    White
    Awesome Dually Daughter!
    $5000
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    Futurity 2009

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    2009 Futurity and MAPACA Color Champ!

    Hidden Hill Peruvian Dually

    Huacaya, Herdsire (Male), Proven | White

    AOA# 31077217   D.O.B. 7/6/2007 (18 yrs) , Full Peruvian

    Sire:
    Caligula's Casanova 
    | AOA# 827924  | White  |
    Casanova is our sire of champions, many times over. He is one gorgeous male, in every possible respect. His offspring carry his headstyle and coverage and very square conformation, almost without exception.

    Dam:
    CPeruvian Chilam 1338 IMPF98 
    | AOA# 806444  | White  |
    Chilam is probably our most valuable female, period. After all, her last three offspring, all males, are 5X and 4X champions. That 5X Champ is our Hidden Hill Peruvian Dually, who won the Color Championship at both 2009 Futurity and MAPACA. His full brother, Hidden Hill Peruvian Pundit, has four championships from our having shown his first fleece twice. Okay, so Inco has not yet had a banner, but anyone that has seen his fleece cannot believe it. At 3.5 years of age, his fleece remains as fine as when he was a cria! I can go down into the belly, and it's the same, down past the stifle -- and it's the same. This is what we all should be breeding for, truly!

    Chilam lost condition score after she sustained an injury to her neck, which made her mope about the lush pasture all summer long, instead of grazing as she ought. But she is indomitable, and her neck has realigned, so I am redoubling my efforts at getting her condition score back so we can breed her this spring. And if she wants to produce another male, I cannot blame her, but to have a daughter to carry on for her would be a most welcome thing indeed.

    Price:

    $100,000

    Half-interest only
    Stud Fee:

    $3,500

    He's Proven!!!
    Ask seller a question

    Bidding Info

    Description

    Hidden Hill Peruvian Dually is our home-bred and born 2009 White Huacaya Male Color Champion at AAA Futurity. He followed that up with the 2009 White Male Huacaya Color Champion at MAPACA. What more could one want? Well, how about winning Judges' Choice at MAPACA? He's done that, too. In fact, the three times his fleece showed, he took championships and the Judge's Choice. However, with the Futurity championship, Dually has met the best of the west, east and all the rest and he has come out on top. Now, when he took those halter class championships, some very big names placed behind him. We generally do not drop names, but the second place finisher in Dually's class at Futurity happened to be Accoyo America Road Warrior. Is Dually a fluke? Well, his two full brothers are excellent examples that that is not the case, and we can even add that the histograms from offspring of the one other proven full brother are almost identical to those offspring sired by Dually. We are seeing AFDs in the 13-14 range and SD compression below 3 rather consistently! We are seeing quite a few 2-handle SDs among his offspring, and that makes us very excited. This boy is white-hot, with a fleece that is elite among the elites, extreme type, excellent conformation, bite and bone. His fleece show scorecards have always shown perfect or near-perfect scores for fineness AND density. What we particularly like about his fleece is the organization approaches that of a top-quality merino, in that the fleece holds together in a high wind, and the matchstick bundles are discreet. Over time, Dually is holding onto an excellent staple length, not something normally associated with an animal that is also holding fineness. We now know that Dually can throw his type and his elite fleece qualities and does so consistently.

    Dually generally has produced color when bred to color -- okay, the very beautiful Cinnamon's Sugar is the lone exception to date. For those of us that want white, well, he does that, too. Five of his offspring have taken banners thus far, in colors ranging from white to black! How prepotent is this line? Dually offspring all carry his excellent type and fleeces, well, here are some stats:

    Dually Honored: 13.3 AFD, 2.8 SD, 21.0 COV, 100% CF
    Bella Luna: 13.3 AFD, 2.5 SD, 19.1 COV, 0.1% >30
    Dually Noted: 14.2 AFD, 3.1SD, 21.5 COV, 100% CF
    Starshine: 14.8 AFD, 3.4SD, 22.8 COV, 0.7% >30
    Bling Bling: 15.5 AFD, 4.0SD, 24.5 COV, 0.9% >30
    Present Perfect: 16.8 AFD, 3.5SD, 20.5 COV, 100% CF
    Parasol: 17.5 AFD, 3.4SD, 19.5 COV, 0.6% >30

    Truly, this is a unique line, and it is dam-driven -- if you know what that means. Sure, Caligula is in his pedigree, but his granddam and his own dam are driving this bus!

    Awards

    NAAS 2008: First Place, Juvenile White Males Futurity 2008: Second Place, Juvenile White Males AFCNA Continental Fleece Show 2008: Color Champion White Males, First Place Juvenile White Males; Best Hand; Judge's Choice Big E Show 2008: Second Place, White Yearling Males Big E Show 2008: First Place, Yearling Bred and Owned Light Males Green Mtn Fleece Show 2008: First Place, Juvenile Whites Green Mtn. Fleece Show 2008: Reserve Champion, Whites Green Mtn. Fleece Show 2008: Judge's Choice, All Huacayas Green Mtn. Alpaca Show 2008: Fourth Place, Yearling White Males Green Mtn. Alpaca Show 2008: Third Place, Yearling Bred and Owned Males Empire Fleece Show 2009: First Place, White Juveniles Empire Fleece Show 2009: Color Champion, Whites Empire Fleece Show 2009: Judge's Choice Empire Fleece Show 2009; NAAS 2009: Blue Ribbon, White Yearling Males AAA Futurity 2009: Color Champion, First Place, Yearling White Males; MAPACA 2009: Color Champion White Male, First Place Yearling White Males, MAPACA 2009: Judges' Choice

    Financing Terms

    We like to tailor financing to meet the needs of our clients, so we do not have set terms. Everyone has a different set of parameters, just as they do different goals, so a 'one size fits all' approach just makes no sense when talking financing terms.

    Offspring

    Proven Color Producer!
    HHF AD Dually Honored
    D.O.B. 7/21/2013   (12 yrs)
    Huacaya, Herdsire (Male), Full Peruvian, Proven
    Sire: Hidden Hill Peruvian Dually
    Dam: Maple Brook Marla_deleted_4/4/2019 4:58:25 PM
    Dually Honored is our next generation Dually son, without any question at all. The histogram I uploaded here is his FOURTH shearing. Face it, you wo...

    Hidden Hill Farm - Vinita, OK

    Stud Fee:
    $750
    Color Champion Son of Dually!
    HHF AD Dually's DEFCON 5
    ARI# 35351672   D.O.B. 8/20/2016   (9 yrs)
    Huacaya, Male| White, Full Peruvian, Unproven
    Sire: Hidden Hill Peruvian Dually
    Dam: Maple Brook Marla
    Here is the full brother to our own HHF AD Dually Honored, who sired the 2019 Buckeye Show Judge's Choice Male. This is no fluke line, either. THIS ...

    Hidden Hill Farm - Vinita, OK

    Sold
    Last Dually Daughter we will ever offer!
    Hidden Hill Andalusia
    ARI# 36035717   D.O.B. 6/7/2020   (6 yrs)
    Huacaya, Female| White, Full Peruvian, Unproven
    Sire: Hidden Hill Peruvian Dually
    Dam: Miss Accoyo Alessandra
    If you want a Dually daughter with true dam power, look no further than Andalusia. Her dam was 17 years old when she birthed her out. Here is how Al...

    Hidden Hill Farm - Vinita, OK

    Price:
    $15,000
    Awesome Dually Daughter!
    Hidden Hill Peruvian Andria
    ARI# 32077957   D.O.B. 9/29/2010   (15 yrs)
    Huacaya, Female| White, Full Peruvian, Unproven
    Sire: Hidden Hill Peruvian Dually
    Dam: 1358 CODI Accoyo Peruvia Gabrielle
    Andria, who we call Twinkie around the farm, is a beautiful example daughter of Hidden Hill Peruvian Dually and our redoubtable full Accoyo female, Ga...

    Hidden Hill Farm - Vinita, OK

    Price:
    $5,000
    Hidden Hill Peruvian Due Process
    ARI# 32743692   D.O.B. 7/22/2012   (13 yrs)
    Huacaya, Male| White, Full Peruvian, Unproven
    Sire: Hidden Hill Peruvian Dually
    Dam: 118 Peruvian Brietta_deleted_4/4/2019 4:44:46 PM
    Due Process was my very first son of Hidden Hill Peruvian Dually -- he came out beautifully. Three days later, he made a huge leap in our large femal...

    Hidden Hill Farm - Vinita, OK

    Price:
    $500

    Updated 4/26/2016

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